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Post by Tulltapes on Aug 24, 2014 20:36:16 GMT
Despite being a fan since the very early days [Seeing the KT Bush band at a couple of pub gigs in South London before she hit the big time] I missed seeing her on the Tour of Life tour in 1979. Although, I've been lucky enough to have seen her perform live several times at the first Comic Relief show with Rowan Atkinson, the Rock Gala Prince's Trust Concert [with others including Ian, Martin, Peggy, PJV and Phil Collins] and at Amnesty gigs as well as special guest appearances with Peter Gabriel and meeting her once or twice. However, this week I get to see her perform 'Before the dawn'. Its the first of a few trips over to Hammersmith to see her for her first live shows since '79. Am I looking forward to it? You bet I am! You are very lucky indeed Quizz! Very rare to be able to see Kate anywhere! She is great and I have a couple friends that are the biggest Kate fans I know. Will expect a review
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Post by Tulltapes on Aug 20, 2014 19:31:37 GMT
Good points! The 1995 material highlighted what a unique talent IA is an what a unique band JT were; at the time, I thought it was the beginning of a new "golden age," if you will. Sadly, it was the beginning of the end of all new material. Well, until now...which is a controversial subject for another day! -David With the exception of Dot.Com, the post '95 period may not have seen much activity in terms of new music, but it did spawn the opportunity for Tull fans to get together on this web-thing and share their interests. So, whilst the home team were sticking to a life on the road, with a touch of the same old, same old, the fans were in the most part trying to keep the flag flying by running chat borads and keeping the name going other than in the odd venue on an odd tour here or there around the more remaote parts of the world. Love it or loathe it, the recent bout of activity is to be welcomed and in the main lauded but I wonder whether it would have happened if those anal fans hadn't kept the name of Tull going through the lean years. Right Quizz. That reminds me of the first time I was online and used to read the ol' St Cleve Chronicle. Then around 95 I was part of The AOL Tull message board. That's where I read that Pegg had left. I think the internet helped immensely with carrying the Tull torch through the lean years. Even the one album they produced during that time was named "DOT COM". It actually probably renewed my interest in the band being able to talk with other fans and share things that not other friends couldn't appreciate. And David I feel the same about the shows. I enjoyed every one of them but I did take notice that the setlists and jokes/banter was very similar for years and Noyce was a great player but looked like he was asleep most of the time. Peggy was missed!
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Post by Tulltapes on Aug 20, 2014 19:18:19 GMT
Many new members have joined this site over the past few months. We would love to hear from you. Even if just to introduce yourself or say hello or to tell us how you got into Tull.
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Post by Tulltapes on Aug 19, 2014 1:37:42 GMT
Cheers all, I'm now in the process of checking out a stack of stuff. Popped into a local hi-fi specialists now thanks to you chaps I'm armed with a little more than the buzzwords; I've also been reading up ' Hi-Fi World' and earmarked two rooms one for the 5.1 and another for the hi-fi stuff. Looking forward to getting back into this step by step, probably go for a more expensive Hi-Fi sperates sytem first and a lower end 5.1 home cineman system. One quick question, [revealing my ignorance] I already have a 2.1 samsung system, can that be expanded? Your receiver must be able to handle 6 speakers total. 5 plus a sub.. (that's the .1) left, right, center, rear left, rear right, and sub. Typical home theater unit.
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Post by Tulltapes on Aug 19, 2014 1:33:30 GMT
Thanks for the detailed and insightful responses everybody!! From my perspective, first seeing them in 1984 at an arena in Worcester, Mass, the place was about two-thirds full. The next show, in 1987, was full, and the outdoor gig in Mansfield, Massachusetts in 1988 was sold-out, with a wildly enthusiastic crowd, people playing flutes in impromptu jams in the parking lot beforehand, etc... That, to me, was the "peak" of their popularity that I was able to view firsthand. Since then, it has been a slow, but very noticeable, slide into obscurity. Not that popularity makes music any better - I saw Fairport Convention in 1995 in a pub with 50 people, and it was GREAT! But, as a Tull fan, it is a little disheartening to see the audience ebb away to virtual nothingness. Speaking of 1995, that was my favorite year for Ian/Tull - both "Divinities" and (you'll be sick of hearing me praise this) "Roots to Branches" were brilliant albums and the live shows blew me away. They were playing 2600 (ish) capacity theatres in my area at that time. Too bad such places seem almost like huge arenas compared to many of the venues IA is playing now... I guess nothing lasts forever. - David I agree David that 95 was a good year for Tull. The 93-94 25th anniversary shows a year prior were good shows and Divinities album + show was superb. Totally different from what I would expect from Ian. Top that off with a great new album "Roots to Branches" including new influences and instrumentation, good songs & great playing by Martin. The only problem was that Dave Pegg who I considered an integral part of Tull was gone. The tours that followed became more and more repetitive and straightforward. "Dot Com" was not a bad break, but not up to par with Roots and the material quickly abandoned.. and the tours that followed dot com ... well we know how this story goes.
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Post by Tulltapes on Aug 17, 2014 23:55:07 GMT
They were still a major touring act through all the 70's.. I think the punk movement around 1976 had an effect on the attention they received and bands like a tull started to be looked at by some younger music fans as dinosaur rock..ha! However with SFTW they kind of reinvented themselves. While they had ups and downs they were consistently a big draw. After the band split up in 1980 it was never quite the same.
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Post by Tulltapes on Aug 12, 2014 19:08:28 GMT
I completely disagree. "Sailor" is one of my favorite tracks on the new set. I love the way Ian sings it and when the band comes in during the second part (underneath Ian's repetition of the chorus), it makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. It's only 3 minutes long, but it's epic. Don't get me wrong. I don't dislike it or mind hearing it. It does have the classic Tull sound. Just seems to be unconnected with the rest of the material and feels to me more like an idea that never fully developed. Something like Scenario/Audition/No Rehearsal I feel stands up to other Tull material. I don't think it's a bad track.
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Post by Tulltapes on Aug 11, 2014 14:05:43 GMT
Yeah great one. Are your questions the Passion Play ones? So many interviews are the same ol'.. so it's good to see something a little different. And Ian backed off from labeling his PP fans as "Anal".
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Post by Tulltapes on Aug 11, 2014 13:59:49 GMT
I FINALLY got hold of a copy of the new edition of A Passion Play, and here are a few thoughts: First, the packaging is lovely and the contributions of Charlie, Steve, Pat and Erin are lovely, and it is great to see them get the credit that they deserve. (And I'm not kissing *ss!) The text and interviews, while very small and thus hard to read (!), are informative and entertaining. On a musical level: I don't have a 5.1 surround system, but the straight remixes of both the album and the Chateau sessions really make this set worth having. Steven Wilson, whose remixes of Thick as a Brick and ELP's Tarkus left me a bit cold, has really earned his paycheck on this release. This is particularly true of the Chateau recordings. I listened to it before reading Wilson's interview, but it noticed immediately how he, for example, removed the excessive reverb from the boxed set/ Nightcap version of "Scenario." Ian's vocals didn't need the help - they sound great "straight." Plus, the new mix of "Skating Away" makes a much-loved classic (that I grew up with) even more loveable! I find "Sailor" to be dull, but it's nice to finally hear it in context, and, while I prefer the flute added to some of the instrumental sections by Ian in 1993, I also feel that Wilson's intention to present the music as it sounded in 1972/73 is well considered and interesting to hear. Of course, hearing the "new" verses in A Passion Play made me giggle like a small child with a new toy. Overall, then, a superior package and well worth having. David Great David, glad you were able to score and review a copy. "Sailor" Maybe would've been a great song? but I'm afraid I have always felt it was not the best to represent that period of Tull. The chorus (lyrics) always seemed un-tull like. I think that's why it was never released or finished for that matter. Remember, the Chateau tapes were scrapped and alot of the music is just not finished. Some of it is certainly good enough as is to stand on it's own and alot of it is better than other tull that was released. If it was finished I think it would've been one of Tull's best.
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Post by Tulltapes on Aug 11, 2014 13:48:53 GMT
Okay I'm back! Thanks Pat Erin and Charlie for allowing me back in! Hahahah ive been on a serious work jag so excuse my absence all. First off a happy and healthy happy Birthday to Ian! in celebration here I'm going to spend the day working (ugh) but will be listening to Ian and Tull albums (on suggestion from someone here) I'm going to start with HE and move backwards and see how far I get...... hope everyone's having a great Sunday. Darin Cody Hey Cody... Welcome back
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Post by Tulltapes on Aug 11, 2014 13:42:54 GMT
What he said. Really though, great advice Geoff. Thanks for posting. I must think of upgrading sometime down the road also.. as long as these great releases continue. My setup is pretty basic, just like this set.. a Sony receiver 5 speakers and a sub. Although I sometimes switch out the left and right speakers with other quality brand speakers I have lying around.. This setup cost me about 5-600.. maybe 7 years ago. I listen to most music through my Presonus studio setup and PA-Sub in my studio. The 5.1 is setup downstairs in the theater with projector and giant screen.. so it's always a treat to have a reason to go down there! This system certainly does the job for now. I also have a BOSE Cine-mate system up in the studio which is 2 speakers and a pretty good sub which I use mainly as my TV sound and somehow it's able to replicate a 5.1 environment. Although not quite the same it still sounds pretty great. The Steven Wilson releases are shocking to hear and can't be described. Well worth the investment. It will give you a whole new appreciation for listening to music..
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Post by Tulltapes on Aug 3, 2014 10:36:03 GMT
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 25, 2014 19:49:58 GMT
Someone out there must really want me to re-evaluate "Homo Erraticus!" Today the mailman delivered a copy of the two disc version, in a plain envelope with no return address, covered in a bunch of stamps, with an unreadable postmark. And I already own the album. Very, very strange. It must have been the Wandering Man... - David That is odd David..
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 25, 2014 19:48:38 GMT
My names is Jennifer George and I'm a Texas resident that loves prog and does a internet radio show called Discovering Prog In High Heels. I'm a friend/fan of Gerrald's and think this site is pretty special. Thanks for letting me join and the already warm welcome. I'll try to be a proper participant and give as much as I glean from all of your experience and knowledge. xo Jen~ www.proginhighheels.comHi Jen and welcome to the group! Great to have you here. What's the link to where our members might catch your show?
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 25, 2014 18:31:07 GMT
Prog Rock Deep Cuts #43 is now available for streaming! This week, Deep Cuts returns to celebrate its debut show on the wonderful houseofprog.com! I'll be featuring new music from Syd Arthur, a modern band who combine the pop leanings of Caravan with the decidedly more psych sounds of Gong. Also on the program, I'll have brand new music from Kavus Torabi (Cardiacs, Gong, Guapo) and his sensationally sensational 8 piece, bassoon-laden monster Knifeworld and their new record The Unraveling. You can also expect an airing of the full-length interview with Adele Schmidt and Jose Zegarra Holder - directors of the Romantic Warriors film series (progdocs.com) which I previewed on Youtube a few weeks ago. To make it even more enticing, I'll be throwing in some choice Canterbury tracks from such excellent groups as Caravan, Soft Machine, Hatfield and the North, and The Wrong Object. I bet you're excited! www.mixcloud.com/progrockdeepcuts/prog-rock-deep-cuts-43/Thanks Ian.. Was having trouble with the WIFI and heard the show in pieces.. I did catch a JTG mention so thank you and Welcome Back!
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 21, 2014 23:16:21 GMT
Young Ian Beaubont (sorry if I spelled your name wrong Ian), posted the vocals of Ian signing, in its entirety, "A Passion Play," with no backup music, although as I was listening and singing the words out loud, I realized Ian 's voice is something that if we could bottle it, oh well...you know where I am going with this one. . Silken... That's Beabout, but that's okay, I've had worse. Once I was referred to as 'Dan Bevbont' (but that was mostly due to my poor penmanship). Anyway, good to know someone reads my Facebook posts! :-) It's only fair that I also give credit where it is due and tell you that I got that link from this forum. Be about.. just put these 2 words together. Or listen to Ian Anderson say it
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 21, 2014 21:47:25 GMT
Beautiful, thanks! Someone do Chateau now. :-) Ok. For members of this group to listen... Here's a good selection of interesting isolated tracks from Chateau..
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 21, 2014 19:17:09 GMT
The emotion that I experience when I listen to something that Ian/Tull has done from the 70's, 80's and some 90's is so deep that it sends shivers down my spine not to mention it takes the breath right out of my body. I could never quite explain this to the lay person who is not a fan, but those of you who are from my generation know that same feeling. It's one of the most exciting emotions I ever get to experience from listening to the vocals and instrumentals from the entire band. Young Ian Beaubont (sorry if I spelled your name wrong Ian), posted the vocals of Ian signing, in its entirety, "A Passion Play," with no backup music, although as I was listening and singing the words out loud, I realized Ian 's voice is something that if we could bottle it, oh well...you know where I am going with this one. I enjoyed this so much knowing all the words to A Passion Play and literally listening to Ian singing it with no back up music. Every hesitation, every verse, was on que that I am in awe. The shivers that went up and down my spine was just indescribable. I managed to save this and will listen to it over and over again. Silken... Welcome Back Silken! Yes the isolated tracks are fun! Hearing every little nuance makes you appreciate even more how great Ian's voice was!
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 12, 2014 20:46:10 GMT
Mine finally arrived in the mail yesterday, which happily coincided with my wife being away visiting her sister in Chicago, so I had the whole house to myself (and the dog) . I've only had a home theater system for a little under two years, so this is my very first 5.1 surround audio purchase. Went downstairs, popped APP into the Blue-ray, cranked it way up, sat myself directly in the middle of the sound field and proceeded to blow my own head off! Amazing doesn't even begin to describe the sound! Talk about being totally immersed in the music! Then I watched the ballerina film and got major goose bumps....has anything ever been so beautiful and creepy at the same time? I'd already heard both stereo mixes, but the 5.1 mixes are on such an entirely different level. Anyone still on the fence about buying this, just do it, you won't be disappointed. Hell, it's worth it just for the booklet alone. NICE!! Glad you finally heard the 5.1. There is nothing like it! The stereo mixes while GREAT do not compare! Immersed is the word. You can't turn it off. You are literally "in the Play" Now that you've discovered the power you can go spend more money on the other 5.1's LOL. Aqualung, Benefit, and Thick as a Brick, and there's more to come......
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 12, 2014 11:42:08 GMT
Hi Pat, Searching back 40+ in the memory banks - it's amazing to remember back then at all Toronto review: www.tullpress.com/nme16jun73.htm Toronto & Montréal APP concert discussed: forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/jethro-tull-a-passion-play-deluxe-edition-due-june-2014.346420/page-17#post-10731295tootull said: Toronto for me. 30/5/73 Maple Leaf Gardens Toronto, Canada Audience: 19,000. A review says the sound accompanying the 'Hare' film broke down, (*I'll add that this brought out the boo birds) and Tull briefly played along live, then abandoned it. Does this mean 'The Hare' was performed truly live? www.ministry-of-information.co.uk/setlist/73.htmParloFax said: Me is 06/02/73, Montreal Forum, Canada. Nothing broke down and it was the rock concert of my life! And I believe the audience was somewhere around 21 000, but I need to check that later on, on an old press clipping by a local rock journalist who compiled stats about the Forum. Said they beat the Rolling Stones' attendance from 1972! It needs to be said though that the Stones had trouble with the Quebec separatists of the day. A bomb exploded in their equipment truck or something... tootull said: www.ministry-of-information.co.uk/setlist/73.htm 2/6/73 Forum Montréal, Canada Support: Brewer and Shipley, who were heckled by the audience. Martin Barre was boo'd during a guitar solo later in the Tull set itself The show also featured a couple of choruses of 'Rock Around The Clock' (taped?). ParloFax said: I finally found the paper. It's from rock journalist Paul-Henri Goulet (now deceased I think), in Le Journal de Montréal, 01/06/'96. I was a little over the top with my numbers, but not in relation with the Stones' concert of '72: The Rolling Stones, 7/72: 18,966 tickets sold Jethro Tull, 6/73: 19,702 tickets sold There are many other big star entries to his list (...naturally!) - Goulet seemed to have been quite thorough - and none surpasses or equals Tull of '73 except local biggies of the era Beau Dommage, with their farewell or comeback concert of 1984 (19,734 :mad: ). I recall vividly "Rock Around the Clock", which was a hoot! It might be in this number that Martin Barre was wearing a full "drag queen" outfit, complete w/ make-up. A long lost friend of mine had an excellent color 35-mm negative of this, taken from pro-shot distance... :cry: I have no memory of any booing though, not of Barre during any solo, nor even of Brewer & Shipley. But I was young and just so excited, I guess no amount of negativity could reach me there and then! tootull said: Soprano sax has faded from my Gardens' memory. :angel: I saw the Minstrel in the Gallery tour twice - Niagara Falls, NY & Toronto - GOOD TIMES! Toronto 1973 Montreal 1973 Niagara Falls 1975 and what the hell.. My first show ever Toronto - Maple Leaf Gardens 1977
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 9, 2014 22:53:25 GMT
I suppose you're right. Also could be when her hand starts to unnaturally rotate at various points Surprised they left the intro film itself silent it's a lot "creepier" with it. It was mesmerizing! Not knowing that her legs were folded up underneath her I couldn't figure out how she was rising. Very unnatural. Slack jawed. I only had enough of Chris Amsons live synth sequence, that he performed every night during the film, to cover the last third of Janes routine. but it gets to the point of……..spooky. :-) This will be added to at a later date to include the flash pots for the bands entrance and Ians gallup onto the stage. But for now here is what was seen and ….heard. Darin Great job with this. It is very eerie! In a good way. FYI. The show I have from Milwaukee 73 has at least 11 minutes of intro.
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 9, 2014 10:43:27 GMT
Erin, Your avatar, as seen on the link on the disc, shows her going from the standing to sitting position, a few people have remarked how the 'ballerina rises' film used in the stage show intro looks creepy, I presume it could be because it is this film but un in reverse, making it look as if she is making very un-natural movements? I suppose you're right. Also could be when her hand starts to unnaturally rotate at various points Surprised they left the intro film itself silent it's a lot "creepier" with it.
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 9, 2014 10:03:43 GMT
Love the new package and everything, but do the following omissions bother anyone other than me? - The missing guitar lead on "Best Friends" - The missing sax on "Critique Oblique" - The missing synth on "The Hare" - The missing 'woo!' on "Overseer Overture" I just can't think of a good reason why the above needed to be removed. Their omissions did NOT hurt the album, but they didn't exactly improve the album, either. Why? Makes me feel a bit cheated. Still, the sound on this set is incredible. I can't help but be bugged by these (tiny) details, but the big picture is pretty great. Could be a number of reasons why and I'm sure Steven Wilson can answer those questions at some point. Ian does have final say and if it weren't for some convincing by Steven there would be much more missing! I have not picked those things out specifically myself but have heard subtle differences here and there that didn't bother me. I own and have heard so many variations of the original version (of both). So don't feel cheated. We got the extra verses right? and the Chateau Tapes, and the great book. Best 5.1 release yet!
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 8, 2014 8:33:40 GMT
Wow, Darren gave a Tull album a good review? I'm shocked! It's that good!
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 5, 2014 20:47:57 GMT
I still haven't the time to sit down and write out all of my thoughts on this release but wanted to say (quickly) that I think this has been the such a great revival for me. The pride in having worked on the photos included is one thing that has been very rewarding. The overriding joy I'm getting out of it though is as the fan I was at 17 and bringing back the excitement I felt when it was first released and going to see the show. Having the opening film of the ballerina rising for the bands entrance with a bang and flash pots injected me with a tiny remnant of adrenaline! That film is spooky ;-) Then there is is the absolute crystalline version of APP itself. I know that not everyone has a 5.1 system, so just a word on this, it blows me away, it's the way this kind of music was meant to be heard. The seperation is really good. At some points when Ian sings (his voice is front center) the "into the ever Passion play", the echo of his voice travels right over and behind your head. Hahahhaha I sat there in awe. Steven Wilson did a great great job. He discusses his approach in the booklet and it makes so much sense. He decided that APP was more of a theatrical sound track then rock music and from the impression I was left with was just that. As far as the differences in the amount of saxes and flutes, it sounds as if he just reshuffled the overdubs a bit. Some of the lines I remember so well are still there they just float up and down in the mix. the Cd remixe is as clean and beautiful. I've heard a couple people express misgivings about investing in just another remaster. That is an erroneous assumption and the idea that maybe you just download the mp3 is hilarious, even the little bit of money that an mp3 costs is a total waste. The quality your looking for, or the reason for buying this set is to get a level of quality not previously available. If you never really liked APP fine don't get it. But if your interested in Tull at it's muscle flexing musical peak. This is the one. They worked for a period of time at the Chateau, after having an over all negative time there yet a finite amount of time time write and record a new album, they scrapped it all and had two weeks to start again, learn rehearse and record the APP. That is something that Ian credits this band with doing in the notes, have the ability, will and creativity to do some intense all nighters to make this happen is pretty amazing. The critiquing of the whole thing from a fans view is irrelevant the fact they were able to do this makes them the best thing there was back in 1973. They were good. more later! bye for now Darin Cody great post!
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 5, 2014 9:08:28 GMT
Congratulations to Charlie, Steve, Erin, and Pat. Thank you for all the hard work you put in on behalf of the fans! - David Thanks David... And for being a part of it all
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 5, 2014 9:06:22 GMT
Mine won't arrive until next Friday (procrastination is my middle name, but I did get it for under $30 through a secondary seller on Amazon) but I have listened to the stereo remixes on Rhapsody. Wow....the extra verses in The Foot Of Our Stairs is pretty mind blowing of course, as well as all of the extra bits and pieces that have been added (or taken out). I can't wait to fire up the 5.1 disc cranked way the hell up on my home theater system! The Chateau recordings are even more of a revelation. Amazing to hear clear versions of The Big Top and Sailor for the very first time. I don't think I fully realized the extent of overdubbing that was done by Ian for the 20 year box set and Nightcap releases....I think it sounds much cleaner in it's original form, although there are some bits here and there where you do miss the flute. I wonder if what he overdubbed years later is truly representative of what he actually would have laid down at the time if they hadn't scrapped the whole thing. Again, looking forward to the 5.1 version of this as well....and can't wait to read the book of course! It is amazing how much flute overdubbing he did for the Nightcap and 20th. There is some things that really do sound unfinished in both composition and production. You can tell the difference right away when you compare to PP. But I never thought I would hear some of the Chateau songs so clearly and clean. It is a real treat to have this! I think a lot of the melodies were probably set in stone and some of it would have sounded very much like what he put down in 80's and 90's but if they finished it I think there would have been some significant differences overall. Ian didn't even get around to record the flute (or more vocals) for this, so who knows what would have been added after that. All the little production bits/overdubs/etc..
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 5, 2014 8:50:41 GMT
Hello everyone! Deep Cuts 42 is now available for streaming! On this week's Deep Cuts (the final on Progrock.com), we'll be joined by a very special guest - Brian Rabey, author of "A Passion Play - The Story of Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull". Brian will be adding his insights (culled from over 30 years in the journalism business) to a special presentation of the new Jethro Tull boxed set, "A Passion Play - An Extended Performance"! Additionally, we'll also have tracks from Necromonkey, King Crimson, Beefheart, Zappa, Cardiacs, and more! www.mixcloud.com/progrockdeepcuts/prog-rock-deep-cuts-42/Great show Ian and fun chatting with everyone.. some hearing the remix for the first time! Looking forward to the new venture. I was able to listen to the last hour or so in my car. Surprisingly it streamed perfectly right to my Bluetooth. Nice!
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 5, 2014 8:46:41 GMT
I'm totally thrilled with this release. The book, the sound, the complete Chateau Tapes. If this doesn't convince absolutely everyone that APP / Chateau are two of the best albums of all time, I don't know what will. Well done, Steven Wilson. As for the missing sax parts, is it just me or does it seem like there are *more* sax parts? Particularly on "Foot of Our Stairs". Or have they been lost in the mix all of these years? It is really great! It has passed my expectations! So thankful to have SW around to initiate all this...and convince Ian to have all this stuff uncovered. And there will be more! Some of the sax overdubs were taken out of the mix though revealing some of the single sax lines that you've never really heard before. It's not a lot, but it is noticeable.. more so on the surround mix. That's probably what you're hearing?
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Post by Tulltapes on Jul 1, 2014 19:17:07 GMT
It seems to be stuck in Clinton, PA which is a whole HOUR from here! I could drive up and get it!! I called Amazon and complained, they've overnighted another one and didn't charge me. The tracking for the first still says it'll be delivered by today. Lame. Man Ian that is a bummer. Being a broadcaster you should have an early copy. I do have a copy on it's way in the mail but drove up to the local Record Theatre early yesterday to see if they had one anyway. They didn't! So I drove to the other Record Theatre up the street. (Yes we have 2 actual Record Stores left in Buffalo) low and behold there was one locked in a wall case. They said it was "the last one". I could not resist! I wll say that it is worth the wait!!! I highly recommend that if anyone here doesn't have a 5.1 setup that you seriously consider it in the near future. They are not terribly costly anymore and it's such a listening experience to behold. You can just sit and listen.. like the old days... but it sounds out of this world! You feel afterwards like you just came from an event or a concert. There are a lot of good Tull (and others Yes "Close to the Edge" comes to mind) releases in superb 5.1 and more on the way. It's a worthy investment!
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