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Post by progrockdeepcuts on May 29, 2014 3:41:53 GMT
I always enjoy picking the brains of like-minded folks, so I'm curious, what other artists do we Tull-heads cherish?
I find that people who appreciate all or most of the Tull catalog tend to be pretty eclectic listeners, and I'm no exception. My second favorite artist is Frank Zappa - now if there was ever an artist who covered as much musical ground as Tull, if was Uncle Frank. And man did he ever open up the world of music for me - jazz, rock, classical, avant garde - he did it all (with varying degrees of success).
I also enjoy some 'heavier' rock like Rush, etc. just about everything for me, from abstract modern classical music to good old 1970s rock n roll, I just love manipulated sound (aka MUSIC).
So what are you folks into?
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Post by prestonplatform on May 29, 2014 5:03:00 GMT
Favourite Prog: (In no particular order) National Health, Hatfield And The North, Grovjobb, Solaris, Jethro Tull, Flor De Loto, Artsruni, Return To Forever, Ohm, Manning, Steve Unruh, Phideaux, Ergo Sum (Chile), Focus, KBB
Favourite non-prog: (In no particular order) Eberhard Weber, Azimuth, Robert Lloyd, Harold McNair, Project Trio, Jan Garbarek, Joni Mitchell, The Villagers, Suede, The Drums, Terje Rypdal
Desert island discs: (In no particular order) Thick As A Brick : Jethro Tull, The Rotters Club : Hatfield And The North, Home Truths : Robert Lloyd , National Health : National Health, Creatures Of The Night : Turning Point, The Martian Chronicles : Solaris, Molly Bloom : Molly Bloom, You Are Here, I Am There : The Keith Tippett Band, La Quarta Vittima : Fabio Zuffanti, Fluid Rustle : Eberhard Weber
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 5:52:54 GMT
Thats a nice list Preston, especially National Health and Hatfield. (I think I have a Robert Lloyd disc around here  ) I'm not going to try and list a bunch of bands because it would take too long and be pretty boring so I'll just drop one in here and there. I just love rock instrumental bands which usually end up being tagged prog. I think Focus was the first one of those that I heard called "PROGRESIVE ROCK!" (and they were sooo much more than Hocus Pocus!) and the prog.tag is a bit worn but we love what it encompasses (which is just about anything that doesn't move in the 1-5-4 circles.) Here's something I was just listening to. Calcutta by the Dixie Dregs. Now a lot of people dismiss them as a guitar ripper band but it just aint so. Morse is a great writer as well as a player. This is a great one for Bass and Drums, It starts kind of deconstructed and comes together as it goes along and turns into a nice melody. Just try it and see. Darin Cody
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 7:35:50 GMT
And another that I used to listen to a lot, that featured Gary Moore (!) at his young self indulgent best (before he went blue) and our old friend Don Airy (I've heard he used to visit Vegas a lot) In COLLOSIUM ll. Listen carefully or you might miss a note. I think they wanted to give Mahavisnu a run for their money.
Darin
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Post by Quizz Kid on May 29, 2014 13:15:16 GMT
I'm probably a bit of a philistine amongst you lot, I tend to be a bit more commercial and mainstream in my choices.
Prog - Prog-era Tull [goes without saying], Early Yes, and mainly Peter Gabriel erz Genesis, particularly 'Foxtrot'. 'Lamb', some King Crimson, etc, Some Soft Machine for that little bit of ecelectic jazz feel and ELP.
'Classic' Rock - I grew up [10 -14] listening to 'mod' bands, ska and many UK mod linked bands, The Small Faces, The Who, The Kinks etc, These stayed with me as I got older, I stopped listening to Ska and Reggae for a long, long time but still have some in my collection for those odd moments of reminiscence. The Who were my band before Tull, but as my younger brother got into them I had already started the migration towards the 'underground' bands of the immediate post- blues boom years. Tull, Free, Bowie, Led Zep, Floyd, Traffic, The Move and 'Canterbury' style bands Caravan, Camel, art-school bands like Queen and Roxy Music. ELO's first album
Mellow stuff, oddities and more modern stuff- huge fan of Kate Bush, Aimee Mann, Cat Stevens, Fairport, 10cc, REM, The Lightning Seeds, The Kaiser Chiefs,
Mustn't forget The Beatles, Clapton, Jeff Beck,
Over and above these I also have a liking of Opera and Gershwin [My dad's influence], Jazz [My Uncle's influece - a clarinet player], Blues [My mate's influence] and Movie scores [Barry Gray, John Wiliams and others influence]
As for desert island discs, I'll have to think about that
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Post by Quizz Kid on May 29, 2014 13:22:07 GMT
Favourite Prog: (In no particular order) National Health, Hatfield And The North, Grovjobb, Solaris, Jethro Tull, Flor De Loto, Artsruni, Return To Forever, Ohm, Manning, Steve Unruh, Phideaux, Ergo Sum (Chile), Focus, KBB Favourite non-prog: (In no particular order) Eberhard Weber, Azimuth, Robert Lloyd, Harold McNair, Project Trio, Jan Garbarek, Joni Mitchell, The Villagers, Suede, The Drums, Terje Rypdal Desert island discs: (In no particular order) Thick As A Brick : Jethro Tull, The Rotters Club : Hatfield And The North, Home Truths : Robert Lloyd , National Health : National Health, Creatures Of The Night : Turning Point, The Martian Chronicles : Solaris, Molly Bloom : Molly Bloom, You Are Here, I Am There : The Keith Tippett Band, La Quarta Vittima : Fabio Zuffanti, Fluid Rustle : Eberhard Weber One for each of them  Apart from 'shite' and 'tragedy'
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Post by progrockdeepcuts on May 29, 2014 18:30:05 GMT
A lot of my favorites listed here so far; kudos to Preston for mentioning Phideaux. He's a great songwriter and a great guy. Tull fans would probably like his Snowtorch album which is very much influenced by Tull's conceptual period (TaaB, APP). He's a huge Tull fan and told me once that Tull in 1972 was his first concert when he was very, very young.
Here's another favorite of mine - shades of Gentle Giant, Tull, etc.
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Post by Tulltapes on May 30, 2014 7:38:55 GMT
The selections so far have been great! I'm probably more like you Pat although I don't really listen to them as much anymore but I think the bands that meant the most are the bigger named bands that I grew up loving. Yes, Genesis, Crimson, Rush, Zappa etc. All pretty standard but all very essential. To list everything would take me all night. Start with the Beatles, Hendrix and go up the list through all the 70's prog stuff, also jazz fusion, good jazz from the 50's and 60's. Never got into country, southern rock, or rap. I have also always dabbled in the obscure prog stuff and love the canterbury prog bands etc.. but the bands that remain most important are always the big ones. As far as being up there with Tull! Some of the bigger named bands are the only ones who were ever close. These days I have a bunch of random things I listen too mostly with similar influences of the old bands, classic sounds, acoustic guitars mixed with heavy guitars, good vocal harmonies etc.. The stuff Steven Wilson has done has been probably the most refreshing thing to come along in current times. I went through a brief metal phase as a kid from Sabbath to Metallica and that's probably why I can get into some of the heavier more current stuff. But I mean progressive heavy with strong groove like Mars Volta and sort of an offshoot band "Zechs Marquise" (has been on the ipod a lot) I can't tolerate much metal music at all anymore and beyond loathe death metal style vocals. Just ridiculous! Actually a lot of what I listen to now is instrumental and sometimes more ambient. It's fun to look through old vinyls that I've never heard of and give them a spin. Sometimes it turns out to be very bad  or funny even. Every now and then something great pops up.
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Post by jioffe on May 30, 2014 17:58:26 GMT
While Ian was being deified at the last Prog Rock Awards ceremony, this band, Big Big Train, were picking up the Breakthrough act award. Reminiscent of early Genesis with a bit of Yes thrown in, I've really been enjoying their stuff. Thoughtful, intelligent, good quality music:
Cheers, jioffe.
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Post by Quizz Kid on May 30, 2014 18:59:57 GMT
OK, that's tipped the balance, I've been meaning to buy this for ages, just going to order it now based on your recommendation, you haven't failed yet.
Watching the footie?
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Post by Tulltapes on May 30, 2014 20:01:22 GMT
Interesting band here and with Ian! Standard size acoustic for My God (i'm guessing it's not his) and some great prog flute jams later on. Pretty cool!
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Post by progrockdeepcuts on May 30, 2014 20:34:05 GMT
PFM - great Italian prog band from the 70s. No prog collection is complete without "Per un Amico" (For a Friend)
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Post by Tulltapes on May 30, 2014 20:47:52 GMT
PFM - great Italian prog band from the 70s. No prog collection is complete without "Per un Amico" (For a Friend) Yes, and so this fits the topic! I do have at least this album on vinyl and remember liking it. I'll have to re-spin. 
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Post by jioffe on May 30, 2014 21:25:13 GMT
OK, that's tipped the balance, I've been meaning to buy this for ages, just going to order it now based on your recommendation, you haven't failed yet. Watching the footie? Hi Pat, In case you don't know, it's available as a double ( English Electric - Full Power) or as two singles ( Parts 1 and 2). The double has 4 additional tracks that are also available on the Make Some Noise EP but not on the single albums. If you go for the double, I recommend taking it slowly, as it's pretty dense but definitely worth the effort. Yeah, watched the match. Pretty low-key affair but a decent enough send-off. We'll need to be much more dynamic in the WCFs, if we're going to do more than make up the numbers, I feel. How do you rate our chances? Cheers, jioffe.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 3:49:18 GMT
PFM - great Italian prog band from the 70s. No prog collection is complete without "Per un Amico" (For a Friend) Yes, and so this fits the topic! I do have at least this album on vinyl and remember liking it. I'll have to re-spin.  "9 to 5 Alta Mira" is a great great track. It was a jam at the end of thei show (this being a live album) it was played after "Mr. 9 to 5" really good album. I saw the 2 or 3 times in the 70s. They put on a great high energy show.
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Post by Quizz Kid on May 31, 2014 11:40:00 GMT
Hi Jeff I'll order the double and I'll report back on my findings! As always you recommendations are well received, and not just here, my amigo. :-) Good win last night but I thought we looked lacklustre at times. Not hopeful of anything in Brazil beyond the quarter finals, although anything more would be more than a welcome bonus. I've never been convinced of Hodgson as a dynamic manager, he always appears to me as the sort of bloke who could be bullied by the likes of Terry and some premiership managers.
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Post by Duncman78 on May 31, 2014 14:31:03 GMT
Here's a real spanner thrown into the works.... THE DAMNED!! Sorry!
I liked their gothic stuff in the 80's, but the punk thing didn't do anything for me, until I saw them a couple of years ago (and subsequently another 2 times since) and suddenly I have all of their albums.
Other artists / bands I like other than some of the ones already mentioned are: James , Seasick Steve, Tori Amos, St. Vincent, Seth Lakeman
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Post by Quizz Kid on May 31, 2014 14:44:10 GMT
Duncan, No spanners here.  (I can't vouch for other places) I saw The Damned when I was at college, along with bands like The Buzzcocks, The Members and Siouxsie and The Banshees.. Some punk stuff was OK, and a few bands were good musicians jumping on a band wagon. My personal faves from that period were The Stranglers and at the other end of the 'alternative' music scene then, 'The Jam' saw mist of their London shows from Soho Market through to their lady shows at Wembley. I suppose they appealed to my liking of early Who.
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Post by progrockdeepcuts on May 31, 2014 14:45:14 GMT
Here's one of my newer discoveries - Cardiacs. Kind of a weird combo of punk and prog (pronk) and it works!
This is tune always seemed a little Zappa-esque.
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Post by progrockdeepcuts on Jun 1, 2014 3:05:32 GMT
I just caught Mike Keneally in Charlestown, WV. Just great! Mike got his start playing 'stunt guitar' on Zappa's 1988 tour (replacing Steve Vai) and has since made a living from doing tours with Vai, G3, Satriani, and of course, his solo work. I took part in his 'guest host' program, which essentially means that I helped Mike and the band load in gear. Well, what I didn't expect was the get a call from Keneally and a personal invite to dinner; very cool! So, anyway, I saw him in 2012 at the North East Art Rock Festival in Bethlehem, Pa. This show was much more hard rocking than the NEARfest show and that fit the vibe of the tiny bar he was performing in perfectly. As always, he just killed it, playing both guitar and piano (sometimes simultaneously!). A personal highlight was a song from his recent collaboration with XTC's Andy Partridge called WingBeat Fantastic, "I'm Raining Here Inside" with an extended piano solo and lots of switching between guitar and piano seamlessly. The band were great, too, very tight sounding and the pieces penned by the other members (Doug Lunn and Gregg Bendian) were phenomenal (one featured "organ" and had doing his best Keith Emerson). Overall, the show was a really nice blend of hard rockers, fusion workouts (ala Morglbl and Aristocrats), and more singer / songwriter moments. And did I mention that the band killed it? Here's a video of Mike covering "Brown Shoes Don't Make It" (Frank Zappa) - "I'm Raining Here, Inside" - Here's a song from the recent Bakin' @ the Potato CD / DVD, which demonstrates some of Mikes simultaneous piano / guitar work - Interestingly, I found out that Mike guested with Ian back on the Rubbing Elbows tour. They did a Keneally song ("Father's Day") and Mike and Ian jammed on "Locomotive Breath". Here's a photo - 
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Post by Tulltapes on Jun 1, 2014 20:44:26 GMT
Wow Ian how cool!!
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Post by b2hammond on Jun 2, 2014 1:40:30 GMT
I just caught Mike Keneally in Charlestown, WV. Just great! Mike got his start playing 'stunt guitar' on Zappa's 1988 tour (replacing Steve Vai) and has since made a living from doing tours with Vai, G3, Satriani, and of course, his solo work. I took part in his 'guest host' program, which essentially means that I helped Mike and the band load in gear. Well, what I didn't expect was the get a call from Keneally and a personal invite to dinner; very cool! So, anyway, I saw him in 2012 at the North East Art Rock Festival in Bethlehem, Pa. This show was much more hard rocking than the NEARfest show and that fit the vibe of the tiny bar he was performing in perfectly. As always, he just killed it, playing both guitar and piano (sometimes simultaneously!). A personal highlight was a song from his recent collaboration with XTC's Andy Partridge called WingBeat Fantastic, "I'm Raining Here Inside" with an extended piano solo and lots of switching between guitar and piano seamlessly. The band were great, too, very tight sounding and the pieces penned by the other members (Doug Lunn and Gregg Bendian) were phenomenal (one featured "organ" and had doing his best Keith Emerson). Overall, the show was a really nice blend of hard rockers, fusion workouts (ala Morglbl and Aristocrats), and more singer / songwriter moments. And did I mention that the band killed it? Here's a video of Mike covering "Brown Shoes Don't Make It" (Frank Zappa) - "I'm Raining Here, Inside" - Here's a song from the recent Bakin' @ the Potato CD / DVD, which demonstrates some of Mikes simultaneous piano / guitar work - Interestingly, I found out that Mike guested with Ian back on the Rubbing Elbows tour. They did a Keneally song ("Father's Day") and Mike and Ian jammed on "Locomotive Breath". Here's a photo -  Have you seen Mike's solo version of Frank Zappa's Inca Roads?... Incredible! 
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Post by lucas on Jun 2, 2014 2:11:33 GMT
Man, there is so many things! Prog from the 70's, with a special liking for Canterbury style. Hard rock and heavy metal in general, specialy folk and viking metal, almost everything apart from pure black and thrash metal. Blues and funky bands, and some jazz now and then. Brazilian music a well, some regional bands and a bit of MPB and rock from the 70's and 80's. There are some good prog bands here. I like many different kinds of music, from mainstream to the more obscure ones, really. But Tull happened to get to me more than anything.
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Post by progrockdeepcuts on Jun 2, 2014 2:49:41 GMT
Have you seen Mike's solo version of Frank Zappa's Inca Roads?... Incredible!  Are you referring to the duo version with Bryan Beller or the Beer for Dolphins rendition?
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Post by Tulltapes on Jun 2, 2014 8:57:58 GMT
Have you seen Mike's solo version of Frank Zappa's Inca Roads?... Incredible!  Are you referring to the duo version with Bryan Beller or the Beer for Dolphins rendition? Sounds interesting. Such a great song!
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Post by b2hammond on Jun 2, 2014 10:45:05 GMT
Have you seen Mike's solo version of Frank Zappa's Inca Roads?... Incredible!  Are you referring to the duo version with Bryan Beller or the Beer for Dolphins rendition? This one from 2003.
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Post by Tulltapes on Jun 2, 2014 15:51:32 GMT
Are you referring to the duo version with Bryan Beller or the Beer for Dolphins rendition? This one from 2003. wow!
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Post by progrockdeepcuts on Jun 2, 2014 16:20:02 GMT
Holy crap, that was amazing. And to think, I had dinner with that guy. Remind me, why does he play 'second fiddle' to Steve Vai and Joe Satch again? 
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Post by Tulltapes on Jun 2, 2014 16:25:04 GMT
Holy crap, that was amazing. And to think, I had dinner with that guy. Remind me, why does he play 'second fiddle' to Steve Vai and Joe Satch again?  He is awesome! And I imagine he's a great guy Ian? Will he be checking in on deep cuts anytime soon?
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Post by progrockdeepcuts on Jun 2, 2014 16:28:32 GMT
Holy crap, that was amazing. And to think, I had dinner with that guy. Remind me, why does he play 'second fiddle' to Steve Vai and Joe Satch again?  He is awesome! And I imagine he's a great guy Ian? Will he be checking in on deep cuts anytime soon? He is one of the nicest, most generous, most humble people I've ever met. He has every right to have an ego, but I see no signs of one. I doubt he'll be tuning into Deep Cuts anytime soon, as he is going on an Australian tour with Joe Satriani this month, but we'll be playing his music, no doubt.
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